tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post6921031053211575092..comments2024-03-05T00:35:33.495+01:00Comments on Different Thoughts: WellsphereMarianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16273435151682585281noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-62950321605201298402013-01-05T05:33:46.917+01:002013-01-05T05:33:46.917+01:00Dear Marian,
Asi es la vida (Such is life)!
U...Dear Marian,<br /> Asi es la vida (Such is life)!<br />Users who want to outwit us and USE<br />US. That is my opinion of that crazy<br />Geoffrey! You are correct;he needs professional help, more than I do. Nice horse pictures. Good luck!<br /> Sincerely,<br /> <br />Errolb, retired M.D.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17909943828378526678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-65579878748893691042008-11-10T20:53:00.000+01:002008-11-10T20:53:00.000+01:00Jane: If people like to join Wellsphere, that's pe...Jane: If people like to join Wellsphere, that's perfectly fine with me. You might even say, bloggers like you (or me) can act as a (very needed) counterbalance to all that biological bs they have on their site/link to .(Now that I've already let myself drive to extremes in my previous comment here: just as you might say, Loren Mosher acted a very needed counterbalance to it inside the APA while he was a member of it - I love this comparison with Loren Mosher! Hahaha!). On the other hand, I don't especially like the idea, that my stuff stands right next to something like this ADHD-article, for instance, and if only half of the criticism I found on the net is true, Wellsphere definitely isn't something I want to support. There are far more credible and honest sites/communities out there.<BR/><BR/>A small anecdote: In the dim and distant past I joined schizophrenia.com's discussion forum, as it was the first and only web-community I came across for some time. Well, after I'd found Freedom Center and MindFreedom, I decided to leave schizophrenia.com, where I'd never felt quite "at home" anyway... At first I tried to click on everything you possibly could click on, trying to find a way how to delete my profile, unsuccessfully. I then contacted the admin by e-mail. It turned out: you can't delete your profile at schizophrenia.com. The only thing you can do is change all your profile-information to something like "XY". This, of course, I did. Now, it says on their website, that they have "over 47,683 active members in our discussions". One of them is me, another one is <A HREF="http://spiritualrecoveries.blogspot.com/2008/01/schizophreniacom.html" REL="nofollow">"Spiritual Emergency"</A>... LOL<BR/><BR/>Hey, good to see, you're, at least partly, back - with a new computer and 1,000 subs. Congrats! :)Marianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273435151682585281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-87942380894644884502008-11-10T16:28:00.000+01:002008-11-10T16:28:00.000+01:00thank you marian!I had been too busy to check them...thank you marian!<BR/><BR/>I had been too busy to check them out more thoroughly<BR/><BR/>I loved the ADHD article! /snark<BR/><BR/>I had no idea your average grade school teacher was so skilled at diagnosing neurological disorders, simply amazing.<BR/><BR/>so, fun fact:<BR/><BR/>there is no setting in your personal wellsphere control panel to voluntarily cancel or close your own account with them, you have to email them to get them to do itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-9608594197145978982008-11-08T00:14:00.000+01:002008-11-08T00:14:00.000+01:00@Marian - thanks for clarifying your political age...@Marian - thanks for clarifying your political agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-78824890652217737252008-11-07T23:00:00.000+01:002008-11-07T23:00:00.000+01:00Bill, I don't know if you have any idea, what this...Bill, I don't know if you have any idea, what this blog is about. If you have any deeper knowledge about its subject. If not: this isn't exclusively about health, mental health. It is just as much about politics. The politics of oppression of people, and suppression of the truth.<BR/><BR/>Now, I'm not necessarily narrow-minded, but there's a limit to how far I'm capable of stretching. The limit is support and advocacy in favor of the oppressing and suppressing institution: biological psychiatry. <BR/>Unfortunately, I see that Wellsphere hosts a number of bloggers who are supporting and advocating biological psychiatry. Frankly, joining this sphere conflicts with my own honesty, dedication and integrity. So, yes, you might say, I have an agenda here. And my agenda is rather incompatible with joining Wellsphere. Or look at it this way: Loren Mosher left the APA (because of its dishonesty, and lack of dedication and integrity towards its clientele), and I won't join Wellsphere.Marianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273435151682585281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-50553089613385992582008-11-07T22:12:00.000+01:002008-11-07T22:12:00.000+01:00@Marian:You mean you think that Dr. Rutledge does ...@Marian:<BR/><BR/>You mean you think that Dr. Rutledge does not have honesty, dedication, and integrity? You must know him personally...or know others who know him personally...or have some direct trustworthy source of information.<BR/><BR/>If you are making that kind of judgement based on hearsay or comments from the internet alone, yikes...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-2025959096773865512008-11-07T21:42:00.001+01:002008-11-07T21:42:00.001+01:00Bill, people who do impress me are people like Lor...Bill, people who do impress me are people like Loren Mosher, Grace E. Jackson, John Breeding, David Oaks, Will Hall, Gianna, and many, many others. Not because of possible titles and professional achievements. But because of their HONESTY, DEDICATION AND INTEGRITY.Marianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273435151682585281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-11910090793461831652008-11-07T21:42:00.000+01:002008-11-07T21:42:00.000+01:00actually they have me down being from San Francisc...actually they have me down being from <BR/>San Francisco so it's possible I didn't even enroll myself...someone else may have!<BR/><BR/>I'm not from SF---I lived there years ago, but never say I"m from there now.Monica Cassanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13969938853749704756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-52801381308797778722008-11-07T21:40:00.000+01:002008-11-07T21:40:00.000+01:00ha ha ha ...the jokes on me..I have a profile ther...ha ha ha ...the jokes on me..<BR/><BR/>I have a profile there and I'm listed as a TOP HEALTH BLOGGER and a HEALTH MAVEN<BR/><BR/>I don't remember joining ...I must have done so to check them out and decided it was a crock....no picture of me or my blog and I've never contributed to them...anyway!!<BR/><BR/>anyway..in the interest of full disclosure I'm on their site!!<BR/><BR/>anyway, I've not put any of the badges on my site! and won't.Monica Cassanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13969938853749704756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-20978803277892826842008-11-07T21:34:00.000+01:002008-11-07T21:34:00.000+01:00You're right bill, it is unrealistic and I don't e...You're right bill, it is unrealistic and I don't expect him to read my blog.<BR/><BR/>I do expect honesty though. Again PRETENDING they've read you by gushing about how great you are is a lie. Liars don't inspire my confidence. And certainly doesn't make me want to join hands with them...<BR/><BR/>I've joined other communities with other, honest marketing schemes...Monica Cassanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13969938853749704756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-31002652108828071242008-11-07T21:12:00.000+01:002008-11-07T21:12:00.000+01:00@Glanna - I guess one has to look at the bigger pi...@Glanna - I guess one has to look at the bigger picture. I suppose one might expect the author to read the blogs of every single one out there before engaging in a solicitation but how many bloggers are there? Perhaps a tad bit unrealistic although I can understand from your point of view that you do not care...you only care that they read your blog. If you believe Wellsphere is doing something positive, then engaging in an initial screening filter is fine. <BR/><BR/>@ Marian - I am always skeptical about ex-employees who say negative things about a previous employer in a public environment. They more often than not have an axe to grind and in my experience are less than credible.<BR/><BR/>As to not being impressed by Dr. Rutledge? I did a little online research...Who does impress you? How many doctors do you know have a PhD in Computer Science from Stanford, who has been extensively published, and who has been on faculty at two of the most highly regarded academic institutions in the world (Harvard and Stanford)...and built the first version of the free consumer web based medical portal for WebMD. Hmmm, seems impressive to me...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-54006158810758899142008-11-07T20:30:00.000+01:002008-11-07T20:30:00.000+01:00Bill, as for me, I've been there, and I've seen "w...Bill, as for me, I've been there, and I've seen "what they're trying to do"... And you bet, I've investigated Dr. Rutledge - and others at Wellsphere. I'm not impressed. Actually, I found quite a number of far less polite and "flattering" statements about Wellsphere at various blogs and in comments - some of them by former employees of Wellsphere - than the one I chose to link to in my post. In principle, I don't join anything, I have the least doubt about. And I must admit, that I have a lot more than "the least" doubt about Wellsphere.Marianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273435151682585281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-15989390406259275032008-11-07T20:17:00.000+01:002008-11-07T20:17:00.000+01:00bill,I don't like having my ass kissed by someone ...bill,<BR/>I don't like having my ass kissed by someone who clearly has not even read my blog...it feels slimy...<BR/><BR/>some people have integrity and are not subject to flattery...<BR/><BR/>had he approached me with a letter other than the unctuous stuff he'd sent me I would consider participating...marketing is everything... I choose not to involve myself with an organization with less than honest marketing.<BR/><BR/>Pretending you've read a blog when you don't know anything about it is icky and it makes me wonder about who might fall for it---<BR/><BR/>granted I like plenty of the people who have fallen for it. but that is neither here nor there.<BR/><BR/>and there is no homework necessary to recognize that the author of the email has not read our blogs!Monica Cassanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13969938853749704756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-49588248779055580222008-11-07T20:07:00.000+01:002008-11-07T20:07:00.000+01:00To those that have commented on the Wellsphere sit...To those that have commented on the Wellsphere site...you should really visit the site, look at what they are trying to do, and investigate the author of the email - Dr. Rutledge. I did and found something quite different....a doctor who has worked clinically, has a PhD from Stanford (in technology), was a medical faculty member at Stanford and Harvard, and built the initial consumer web portal for WebMD. These are impressive credentials.<BR/><BR/>It seems obvious that Wellsphere is trying to build content and they are soliciting bloggers. Bloggers can evaluate the offer and decide accordingly what they want to do but there are clear advantages to the blogger by joining Wellsphere and offering their content for free. Bloggers may not want to follow that path for their own good reasons but to label Wellsphere in a negative light seems inappropriate. <BR/><BR/>It is good to be cynical...but first do your homework before you assume the worst...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-76567688089185038322008-10-31T20:47:00.000+01:002008-10-31T20:47:00.000+01:00Marian,I got the email letter today. I am printing...Marian,<BR/><BR/>I got the email letter today. I am printing out your piece. Thank you. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Mr. Bremmer, you have a great site and I have just bookmarked it. I look forward to reading more of it.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14474227548195593445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-77766457647959364052008-10-31T20:02:00.000+01:002008-10-31T20:02:00.000+01:00There are some other comments on the other blog yo...There are some other comments on the other blog you link to about the background of the person involved. I just got the same email and this site was in the top group of hits just by searching for his name. That is not a good sign. This is not the first time I have a request like this. Some of the people on the other site were complaining about the fact that they did not get paid. Not sure this is realistic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-83418960029192027182008-10-18T05:24:00.000+02:002008-10-18T05:24:00.000+02:00Marian,Hello! Thank you for this, I know someone w...Marian,<BR/><BR/>Hello! Thank you for this, I know someone who was also contacted by them and asked me what to do. <BR/><BR/>Didn't know. Now I will tell her to look at this article.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14474227548195593445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-66347847004394051422008-10-17T19:38:00.000+02:002008-10-17T19:38:00.000+02:00Harning: Hahaha!...tosommerfugle & Gianna: I t...Harning: Hahaha!...<BR/><BR/>tosommerfugle & Gianna: I think, you both hit the nail on the head.<BR/><BR/>They picked the wrong person, when they picked me: too much real paranoia involved here ;)Marianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273435151682585281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-15260532267848399492008-10-17T19:29:00.000+02:002008-10-17T19:29:00.000+02:00tosommerfugle says it better than me.tosommerfugle says it better than me.Monica Cassanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13969938853749704756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-59661402495820380132008-10-17T18:24:00.000+02:002008-10-17T18:24:00.000+02:00these people are fucking whores who prey on everyo...these people are fucking whores who prey on everyone by kissing their ass and basically are simply looking for free content on their website which they would not deny would eventually contain pharma ads when I asked.<BR/><BR/>lots and lots of bloggers have been suckered by this asshole. You see these badges from the site all over the place...<BR/><BR/>"Best Health Blogger" and crap like that...totally going for the ego...<BR/><BR/>I've checked them out...and signed up on their site...they've fooled some good people.<BR/><BR/>I find them rather predatorial.Monica Cassanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13969938853749704756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-8033343271088934652008-10-17T17:49:00.000+02:002008-10-17T17:49:00.000+02:00To me, it looks cleanly like an invitation to prov...To me, it looks cleanly like an invitation to provide free content for them. Then, they may attract readers and search engines.<BR/><BR/>The benefit (for them) is showing ads, and search engine rankings of other sites they like to link to. Possibly sites selling health-related stuff like little pills of various colors.<BR/><BR/>The benefit for you is ... (to phrase it kindly) questionable. They've probably done a rough search for bloggers writing about health-related topics, and might be pleased to think they've been carefully selected :-)<BR/><BR/>(I haven't visited their site, I just recognize the method).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1502332727845937105.post-91806955487817189252008-10-17T16:41:00.000+02:002008-10-17T16:41:00.000+02:00Hahaha!Men Marian - udvis dog lidt samfundssind. :...Hahaha!<BR/>Men Marian - udvis dog lidt samfundssind. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com